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Post by slowdown on Sept 21, 2006 15:23:53 GMT -3
So, I figure since this is a society for Geeks and all there must be at least a few people here with an interest in Nintendo's upcoming console. I figured I would start up a thread to discuss the Wii. So, what are opinions of the upcoming system?
For me, I have been anticipating the system for quite some time now, not just because of the fact that it is a Nintendo system but also because of the possible new types of gameplay experiences that it can possibly bring. I am just hoping that Nintendo ultimately delivers on the hype they have created, though.
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Post by newfie on Sept 21, 2006 19:13:53 GMT -3
I just cant wait to see nintendo become the top dog in the public's eyes (nintendo has always been #1 to me). Its hard to discribe how I feel about the WII, but as long as it has good games coming out, and its fun to play, I wont be let down.
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Post by Ryan on Sept 22, 2006 8:45:23 GMT -3
I'm probably gonna wait for a price drop before I get one. My cousin has his money erady for the release, and he happens to live next door to me...and I happen to have a DS...so I won't miss out on much. Same thing happend with his GCN. I bought the GBA - GCN cable, and used my SP to keep bombing him in Wind Waker.
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Post by Skinner on Oct 6, 2006 12:21:02 GMT -3
Screw the wii, with that gimmick controller. If they really had all that much faith in it, why would they produce a secondary controller? Maybe if it's difficult to use? maybe if its not nearly as accurate as most people would like. Maybe it requires the perfect setup in order to work right? Maybe people will get tired of waing their remote control around like an idiot. PS3>> Wii. At least They are improving what is proven to be good fun, gaming that is enjoyable for hours on end.
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Post by Ryan on Oct 6, 2006 18:22:39 GMT -3
PS3 mabye much greater than the Wii...but:
Wii <<<$<<< PS3
Plus you have the retro gaming, DS compatibility, GCN controllers, constant net activity, Mario Kart, Smash Bros. Brawl, etc. I will agree that the PS3 will have better games and graphics, but I have no intention, nor the ability, to spend that much money. And the price is gonna make a hell of a difference, especially for christmas gifts. And graphics aren't everything. I still play NES from time to time just because of the classics. I even break out the Atari 2600 from time to time.
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Post by bigbadgoat on Oct 6, 2006 21:58:12 GMT -3
you have retro gaming on the ps3. You have adapters for both previous ps1 and ps2 controllers and memory cards. You have MGS, you have DMC, you have Killzone. Have you seen clips from White Knight? Sure graphics arent anything. But for the sake waiting a year (or 2) for a more reasonable price (if you put the cost of an NES of 1985 in todays dollars it costs over $500) Why get a game system that already is looking like a previous generation console. You can't base your entire console on a gimmick. It's a recipe for disaster. I'd much rather spend a few hundred more on something that won't look stale in two years. Good things come to those who wait, I'm not going to get one on release either, I have a term to pay for.
I dont really have a problem with nintendo. But I have already played Mario... everything, and the wii versions are primarily the same thing with a remote control, hell some of them don't even use the controller, most require some extension to the controller. Sure it'll be fun, but it'll be nostalgic. It's not new, its just different.
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Post by chadkeough on Oct 10, 2006 23:36:06 GMT -3
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scottomax24
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Damn World of Warcraft and Ultimate frisbee have stolen my life again...
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Post by scottomax24 on Oct 18, 2006 9:00:53 GMT -3
Ok just for the record i do believe that the appealing to the masses idea is a truly great one, and the whole get up and get into the control is also a wonderful thing (no more gamers butt and cramping after a coupla relaxing days off) but after comparing the graphical capabilities of the wii to even current gen hardware (such as the original xbox) i find myself asking why not use the equivalent of an ATI 1900GT or hey even a 1950GT instead of the already thouroghly obsolete 1600GT architecture which is the wii's backbone as it were. Yes this would add cost but certainly not more than about $50 dollars on the scale that nintendo would be purchasing the things, aswell the cpu is only a 750Mhz or so IBM core now thats just plain sad, they could have triple it on a single core architecture for only a few dollars per core (yet again based on the mass purchasing they would be doing). Now i'm sure some will label me a graphics whore for these simple suggestions but I assure u my intent is only to allow for the best take home experience possible to the average gamer, and basicly to suggest the possible fate of great software developed for horribly inadequate hardware (does anyone remember Perfect dark, because say what u want about the N64 but in the end it simply didn't have the stones to push that game, which on a more powerful system such as the gamecube could have been the greatest console shooter ever instead of being know as the other shooter by rare ya know that one made by the same team as golden eye). The hard technical fact is that when the wii launches in about a month from this writing, it may very well be the omnienjoyable platform that we all hope it to be but its operating hardware wil be instantly obsolete and that very point will only become the very much more sour over the ensuing 5 to 6 year life span, I do still think the stuff my xbox is capable of is quite enjoyable and ten years ago if u had told me that the screens i was looking at of FFVII were going to eventually seem very dated and bordering on ugly to my eyes I would have thought u to be unstable but trust me the machine will not seem quite as shiny in one or two years when wither a PSP refresh an XBOX handheld (gods willing) or an upgraded DS (see PSP post) is much more portable socio friendly and maybe even cheaper with vastly and i mean vastly supperior graphical immersion qualities.
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Post by scottomax24 on Oct 18, 2006 9:04:25 GMT -3
bloody proanity filter, a slang term for prostitute is not really profanity anyway (really not sure on this one)
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scottomax24
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Post by scottomax24 on Oct 18, 2006 9:08:07 GMT -3
just as an aside to bigbadgoats post from above, they aren't basing it all on a gimmick, hence the entire backward compatability thing and the outsource to SD storage. A very cynical person would say they were trying to pinch every penny they possibly could to turn a profit, but on the average it may just have been a penny too much.
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Post by bigbadgoat on Oct 20, 2006 9:05:42 GMT -3
They should be basing it all on a gimmick, if they truly believed in their product. If they're willing to go out on a limb, and say, he's we're revolutionary! then stick your neck out and do it! Don't go pussyfooting around, offering regular controllers "just in case" you don't like our fabulous new remote control. its crap.
You don't see sony offering an adapter to use ps2 controllers on the ps3. They might have made a lot of mistakes in rolling out this system, but one thing they haven't done, show a lack of confidence in their product.
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scottomax24
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Post by scottomax24 on Oct 27, 2006 3:03:16 GMT -3
The PS3 controller is kinda a small evolutionary step (that they whole heartedly stole from the big N) hence the lack of the connectors for the PS2 or PSX controllers to jack into. But in all seriousness it probably is due to a lack of either internal space for the female sides of the controller connectors where thee space could have been used for fans or more mainboard space or possability two is that it interferes with the PS3's cooling solution ( seriously gonna need it if the GPU in the PS3 is a hyper clocked 7800GTX512MB like it appears its going to be, about the same as my PC's 7900GTX512MB but runs twice as hot say 50-65C under load, in layman's terms WAY HOTTER THAN AN XBOX 360 ever got to ).
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Post by hikoseijuro755 on Nov 17, 2006 1:51:18 GMT -3
Off to camp the PS3 at Futureshop... Wish me luck1!!
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Post by hikoseijuro755 on Nov 17, 2006 14:06:08 GMT -3
Damn scalpers.... There were 11 people waiting at the entrance to Futureshop since wednesday to get a PS3 (they were getting 8 in) and were going to scalp them for ludicrous amounts on eBay (they're currently going for about $2500!!!!). I showed up and was sad that I had to spend $30 on the taxi to and from the place with nothing to show for it
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Post by Toadbell on Nov 20, 2006 22:09:58 GMT -3
Man oh man, do I love my Wii. Call me a Nintendo fanboy, but I felt they'd get it right this time, and I'll be very surprised if it turns out otherwise. While I haven't tried out the Photo Album yet, don't have Wii Points, and News and Weather aren't available 'til next month, here's a quick runthrough of my thoughts on what I have seen:
Wii Channels/Menu: Clean, tidy, smart looking, and easy to use. Very nice.
Wireless Setup: One of the only negatives I've been able to come up with. It's possibly due to the large influx of people configuring their consoles simultaneously, but the updates once it recognized a connection were molasses slow. So, once you've got the system running and need to grab something to eat, line up your wireless settings and run off for a few minutes. Logging into the Store also took a little longer than those of us used to cable or better internet would like, but it got there. Not that I could do anything but look at the Virtual Console games available.
Mii Channel: If you enjoy making avatars online (I think everyone's made themselves South Park-style by now), you'll love this. Hair, eyes, brows, nose, mouth, glasses and other facial features are standard; you can choose height and girth, favourite colour (shirt colour), birthday, nickname, and creator name. You can also choose to discern amongst favourite Miis (which will show up more often in games which Miis apply to), and whether or not to allow your Miis to mingle with Miis from other wirelessly connected systems. It's crazy addictive.
Wii Sports: Amazing game for a pack-in. I do have a tip, though: it actually helps to read the manual, as the in-game instruction is very limited in some cases, particularly for baseball pitching. Tennis was pretty inuitive, just a matter of catching the timing and mastering the spins. Baseball didn't appeal to me at first, as I couldn't seem to match up any hits consistently, but I managed to find a way to at least hit regularly today. Pitching is nothing fancy. Bowling is hilarious, and (I find, at least) incredibly true-to-life. I can't get rid of that damn inside curve in real life or virtual reality. And yes, turkeys are labelled as such by the game. Golf took a bit of getting used to; it helps a lot if you remember to center the remote properly just before swinging, or it could mess up on you. I love how they tossed holes from the old NES Golf in there, too. I was almost really disappointed with Boxing, because it never seemed to connect (or even punch) when I wanted it to, and blocking was wonky. I've discovered that precision is essential, however; make sure you move your hands out sharply to punch, and pull them back in all the way, otherwise, any subsequent swings will probably not be registered. Overall, I'm very pleased with this, especially for a pack-in title. I wouldn't buy it for more than $15 if it wasn't included, but otherwise, very nice. I reiterate that four player Tennis (or Bowling, for that matter) is hilarious.
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: Oh joy. Oh rapture. Beautiful looking game thus far. For all the "second-rate" graphics that critics have been going on about, this game on a decent widescreen with composite cables is pretty fucking great. Story seems solid (yes, new Link, and no, he doesn't know Zelda yet, naturally) and the character forms are highly detailed - the opening scene with Link and another villager surprised me when the man's facial expressions were clear, readable, and smoothly transitioned as he spoke, carrying a certain depth which is strange for an NPC. Gameplay took a little while of getting used to, but when you've been holding a single small controller with two hands for twenty years, the transition to motion-sensitive remote/nunchuk isn't going to be perfect - I still occasionally press A to swing the sword and end up putting it away or rolling, or try it by pressing B and end up whipping out a glass bottle full of bee larvae (fish bait) and eating them all with a grimace! Music is fantastic; as to be expected, there are a few blatant uses of classic Zelda music, and a few slightly more subtle ones (similar notes or instruments in the village, ranch or shop). I sat through half of an FMV before realizing that the background music was a take on the fairy fountain music! Also, fans of the Hyrule Castle theme from A Link to the Past (in my opinion, one of the all-time best tracks used in a Zelda game, especially for the cymbal intro) will be pleased to find an awe-inspiring version of the tune in here. I won't tell you exactly when, you can discover that for yourself (if you haven't already); just keep an eye out for a wolf with an imp on its back facing a cloaked figure. Overall, I'd have to say that, for people who are worried for action-oriented gaming on this console, this game will sell you on it.
So, who else got one? How do you like yours? What did you name it? Mine's named Lindbergh. I'll probably start a friend code thread... later... after I've played some more Zelda.
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